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Re: upgrade to testing fails

Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:01 pm

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We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System
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That's the first-time sudo warning. Any idea why that showed up?

Check permissions on everything in your home dir. I have no idea what's going on.

In contrast to your situation, I could not get X to work on ascii when I first upgraded, but I upgraded again yesterday, and X works now. I tried to update/upgrade again today, and I ran into a problem with the signing key.

Re: upgrade to testing fails

Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:10 pm

No clue why the sudo warning shows up.
Like said: it is a new account, running startx was the first action (but i sure have no idea how sudo comes into startx ... ).
usbmount?

As far permissions are concerned:
The brutal truth is that i never now how they are supposed to be (and i never have to check it ... ).
home belongs to root/root and the according /home/username dirs belong to user/user and dude/dude.

I could touch the file in .cache/sessions/...
so i sure got write access there.

The odd thing is that dude gives me a black screen (as far xfce4 is concerned) while user gives me the xfce desktop, but no keyboard-mouse.
For fluxbox both look the same (GUI yes, but no keyboard mouse).

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I didn't think about running upgrade and dist-upgrade again

Re: upgrade to testing fails

Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:50 pm

can't get it working.
on another note, during the update libsystemd0 was installed.
removing it will remove xorg, reinstalling xorg will reinstall libsystemd0

I can't troubleshoot this, cause after each startx i wil lhave to reboot cold.

Re: upgrade to testing fails

Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:29 pm

It should not be possible to install libsystemd0 without changing the pin-priority in 00nosystemd. You should probably start over with one of the April 2 isos. If you start with one of the nox isos, remove and reinstall moc and librtmp1 before doing anything else.

Re: upgrade to testing fails

Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:35 pm

fsmithred wrote:It should not be possible to install libsystemd0 without changing the pin-priority in 00nosystemd.

Yes.
And that is the odd thing.

I sure didn't make any changes for pinning
First it is one of my main interests to avoid systemd.
Second this was a pretty new installation.

For this reason or another the pinning does not work.

Re: upgrade to testing fails

Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:26 pm

I don't have much time these days to chase moving targets. However I have the latest refracta8 unpacked and set up for a chroot, and tried to upgrade a copy to testing. I did apt-get upgrade first, to narrow things down.

So far I have installed xserver-xorg-core and x and xserver-common from angband.pl (they have nosystemd versions, compatible with the rest of xorg in testing). The new kernel won't install without new xorg.

Not finished yet however I can confirm that the pin for *systemd* is still in place but no longer works. It's been kept out so far with only libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 rpcbind to upgrade now (they will install libsystemd0)

Code:
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  cups cups-core-drivers cups-daemon gecko-mediaplayer gnome-mplayer
  libatkmm-1.6-1 libavdevice55 libavfilter5 libavformat56
  libboost-date-time1.55.0 libcairomm-1.0-1 libcwidget3 libebook-1.2-14
  libebook-contacts-1.2-0 libedata-book-1.2-20 libept1.4.12 libgegl-0.2-0
  libglibmm-2.4-1c2a libgnutls-deb0-28 libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a libhogweed2
  libimobiledevice4 liblognorm1 libnettle4 libopencv-core2.4
  libopencv-imgproc2.4 libopenobex1 libpangomm-1.4-1 libperl5.20
  libphonenumber6 libproxy1 libsidplayfp3 libsigc++-2.0-0c2a libtag1-vanilla
  libtag1c2a libvncclient0 libvncserver0 libxapian22 mate-polkit
  mate-system-monitor mate-system-tools mplayer2 perl-modules
  printer-driver-gutenprint upower xfce4-power-manager

# SNIP

After this operation, 812 MB of additional disk space will be used.

Not too serious here, mostly old libs, log that and sort later.

EDIT: Remaining packages are now upgraded to angband.pl versions, dist upgrade is now complete.. However :

Code:
:/# apt-get install libsystemd0 -s
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libsystemd0
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 18 not upgraded.
Inst libsystemd0 (229-4 Devuan:2.0/testing [amd64])
Conf libsystemd0 (229-4 Devuan:2.0/testing [amd64])

One more note, need to edit apt.conf.d/00default-release before starting.

Re: upgrade to testing fails

Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:41 pm

Thanks for the confirmatin (more or less).
Yup, i installed the new kernel, might well be problems occured after that (i did it after the dist-upgrade.
And yup, i have edited apt.conf.d/00default-release (not sure when, at a certain point it gave me problems, so i commented it).

Re: upgrade to testing fails

Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:49 pm

I should have checked more carefully. I got libsystemd0 a few days ago and didn't notice. And pinning isn't working, even after changing to someone's best guess of what should work now that they've changed things.

Neither of these worked.
Pin: release o=*
Pin: release a=*

Re: upgrade to testing fails

Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:10 pm

This works (apt/preferences.d/00nosystemd):

Code:
Package: *systemd*
Pin: origin "packages.devuan.org*"
Pin-Priority: -1

So does this (my preference):

Code:
Package: *systemd*
Pin: origin "*"
Pin-Priority: -1

Now:

Code:
:/# apt-get install libsystemd0 -s
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Package libsystemd0 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'libsystemd0' has no installation candidate

And this (e.g 03angband) prioritizes angband.pl (change * to a select package if you want):

Code:
Package: *
Pin: origin "angband.pl"
Pin-Priority: 999

[Pin: origin ""] does not work.

We might get (maybe the first) ascii live-image out of this!

Re: upgrade to testing fails

Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:18 pm

at least i start to get back to my status as the guinea pig .... :-)

yeah, ascii image sounds nice.
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